Bernie Sanders Explains His Rage on Seth Meyers' 'Late Night' (Video)

“That is so ugly, so grotesque, so immoral”

Bernie Sanders joined “Late Night with Seth Meyers” Monday, making the Vermont Democrat the first-ever guest on the at-home version of Meyers’ show.

The presidential candidate discussed COVID-19, the failings of the American healthcare system and his Medicare For All plan — as well as why he made some sarcastic remarks toward Republicans last week on the Senate floor.

“You still use your time on the Senate floor to be a bit sarcastic to your Republican colleagues. We do enjoy your sarcasm, we feel like it’s when your Brooklyn comes out,” Meyers said last night in their via-webcam conversation. “You were referring to the fact that some across the aisle felt the [stimulus] bill was being too generous to the less fortunate, to poorer Americans. In those moments of sarcasm, is that just masking a simmering rage you feel when your colleagues react like that?”

Sanders immediately agreed with the “simmering rage” analysis.

“Absolutely. You have folks in the Senate, my Republican colleagues, who voted for a trillion dollars in tax breaks for the 1% and large corporations. And yet, in this stimulus package — where we fought to make sure we expand unemployment, by the way, to a lot more people than previously were eligible for it, and then we said over a four-month period, in this terrible time when people are so worried how they’re gonna feed their families — that for four months, we’re going to add $600 to what they would normally get in an unemployment check,” Sanders said.

The presidential candidate, who is still in the running against former Vice President Joe Biden, said his colleagues across the aisle were being “grotesque” and “immoral.”

“We had some of my Republican colleagues that say, ‘Imagine there would be some low-income workers who would actually earn more from their unemployment check than they previously did when they were making $10, $12 bucks an hour. We can’t allow that to happen,’” Sanders said. “And to me, that is so ugly, so grotesque, so immoral, that I felt compelled to speak out about it.”

The sarcastic remark Meyers was referring to occurred last week on the Senate floor when Sanders raised concerns about the coronavirus stimulus bill that has since been signed into effect.

“They’re very upset that somebody making $10, $12 bucks an hour might end up with a paycheck for four months more than they received last week. Oh, my God, the universe is collapsing! Imagine that,” Sanders said. “Oh my word, will the universe survive?”

Watch one “Late Night” clip with Sanders above and another below.

19 'Breaking Bad' Characters We've Already Spotted in 'Better Call Saul' (Photos)

  • “Better Call Saul” inhabits the same sad Albuquerque underground as “Breaking Bad,” so it’s natural that characters in the AMC shows would overlap. Ready to see how? (Spoiler warning: This gallery contains lots of details about both shows.)  

  • Jimmy McGill/Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk)  
    He’s the main character in the new series, so of course we need to include Slippin’ Jimmy. Goodman appeared in 43 of 62 “Breaking Bad” episodes as Walt and Jesse’s criminal lawyer, with an emphasis on “criminal.” This season, Jimmy finally starts to practice law as Saul Goodman, complete with an upgraded wardrobe.

    In flash-forwards, we see that Jimmy/Saul lives long enough to become a paranoid, balding Cinnabon worker. Free icing? Could be worse.  

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  • Don Hector Salamanca (Mark Margolis)
    He walks! Hector — the uncle of Tuco Salamanca — had a wheelchair in “Breaking Bad.” But the old man who was constantly ringing his bell to communicate was a real crimelord in his younger, more virile days, which “Better Call Saul” shows.  

    In “Breaking Bad,” Hector takes out Gustavo Fring (pictured) with a crazy suicide bomb, avenging the deaths of his OTHER nephews. We’ll get to those guys soon.  

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  • Ken (Kyle Bornheimer)
    Here’s one of those deep pulls that we alluded to earlier. In “Breaking Bad,” obnoxious Ken inadvertently helped Walter White break bad, and his mode of transportation suffered the consequences.  

    First, Ken stole Walt’s parking space at a bank, while bragging on his bluetooth. Later, the loudmouth continued his boastful, irritating behavior. So Walt blew up his car, as chemists do.

    In Season 2 of “Saul,” Jimmy and Kim trick Ken into buying them a ton of expensive tequila shots at a swanky bar. The stock broker with “KEN WINS” on his BMW license plates tends to lose a lot in this universe.  

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  • Gustavo Fring (Giancarlo Esposito)  
    After being teased at the end of Season 2, The Chicken Man and “Breaking Bad’s” biggest adversary shows up in the second episode of season 3. After a humorous scene where he’s cleaning up right next Jimmy eating at Los Pollos Hermanos (Saul and Gus never actually met each other in “Breaking Bad”), we see Fring is not yet the drug kingpin he is in “Breaking Bad.” But throughout the first four seasons, we see how Mike will eventually become Gus’ fixer and get a lot more on the rivalry between Fring and the Salamancas (as fans of both shows know, it doesn’t end well for either).  

    We also see Fring lay his eyes for the first time on the industrial laundromat that will be known to “Breaking Bad” fans as the Super Lab where Walt and Jesse cook for him.  

  • Tuco Salamanca (Raymond Cruz)  
    Tuco’s surprise appearance in Season 1 of “Better Call Saul” set the tone for even more exciting, unspoiled villainous returns. And then legs got broken, badly, because Tuco is a complete madmen.  

    Currently, Tuco is doing prison time, thanks to Mike. But he’ll be out soon enough …  

    In “Breaking Bad,” the ruthless Tuco had worked his way all the way up to drug kingpin level. He, Walt and Jesse had some rough and tumble meetings before Tuco himself met his demise with a Hank Shrader bullet through the brain.  

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  • Mike Ehrmantraut (Jonathan Banks)  
    OK, OK, we know — another obvious one. But you can’t make this an all-encompassing list sans Mike.  

    Mike and Jimmy/Saul work together in both series, though their relationship remains rocky at best. Early on in “Better Call Saul,” the two meet at a local courthouse, where Jimmy is a public defender and Mike works the parking lot.  

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  • Leonel Salamanca (Daniel Moncada)  
    One of the killer “cousins,” who are really twin brothers. (They’re cousins of Tuco’s, and nephews of Hector’s.)  

    The boys are dangerous, bloody, all-business hitman for the Juarez drug cartel. They’re sharp dressers and have ever sharper axes. Both brothers get snuffed out as a result of a classic Hank firefight during “Breaking Bad,” though this one lives long enough for one last-gasp badass hospital moment.  

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  • Marco Salamanca (Luis Moncada)  
    Click back to brother Leonel’s slide — don’t they look similar?  

    One difference: How they died. Marco got the top of his head blown off by Hank in that classic parking lot fight scene. Gross, but fully earned.  

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  • Domingo “Krazy-8” Molina (Max Arciniega)  
    A more grown-up Krazy-8 was actually the first person Walter killed in “Breaking Bad,” though he hemmed and hawed over it for a while, almost freeing his violent prisoner.  

    In “Saul,” Molina comes across quite convincingly as a younger, more innocent version of himself, still new to the drug game and working at his dad’s store. In a half-decade or so, he’ll be choked to death with a bicycle lock in Jesse’s aunt’s basement. He’s also Jimmy/Saul’s first step into becoming the criminal underworld’s go-to attorney.

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  • Lawson (Jim Beaver)  
    Everyone’s favorite weapons dealer sells Walt the gun he uses to mow down a whole lotta neo-Nazis. He also turned up on “Better Call Saul” to offer several rifles to Mike… though, to Lawson’s surprise, Mike took a pass.  

  • Lydia Rodarte-Quayle (Laura Fraser)
    We all know how she takes her tea by now, which would ultimately be Lydia’s demise.   

    During the “Breaking Bad” days, Lydia tried to get Mike to kill a laundry list of Gus Fring’s associates. When he refuses, she tries to have Mike killed. Bad move.  

    Lydia and Mike first meet in “Better Call Saul,” when Gus sets him up with a paycheck at her Madrigal Electromotive. They don’t get off to a great start.  

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  • Huell Babineaux (Lavell Crawford)  
    A very svelte-looking Huell (Crawford lost 130 pounds since the end of “Breaking Bad”) pops up in the fifth episode of season 3, “Chicanery,” inadvertently bumping into Chuck during a recess during Jimmy’s bar hearing. In a gut-punching reveal, we find out that Jimmy hired Huell to plant a fully-charged battery on Chuck, which reveals his illness to be in his head and helps Jimmy avoid getting barred forever for practicing law.  

    Hey wait a minute, didn’t we see Huell do that move before…?  

  • Don Eladio Vuente (Steven Bauer)  
    “The Winking Greek” was the boss of the Juarez Cartel — that is, until he took a shot of Gus Fring’s Zafiro Añejo tequila during the “Breaking Bad” days.  

    Back during the “Better Call Saul” timeline, Eladio was a total jerk to Hector, who years later was used as a prop to take out Fring.  

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  • Francesca Liddy (Tina Parker)  
    Before she was Saul Goodman’s personal secretary, Francesca served as the receptionist for Wexler McGill. She unfortunately gets laid off when Jimmy and Kim decide to sublet the office during Jimmy’s enforced year-long sabbatical from legal work. Jimmy promises to hire her back when he can practice law again, and we all know how that turns out.  

  • Gale Boetticher (David Costabile)  
    In the third episode of Season 4, Gus pays a visit to Gale at his chemistry lab on the University of New Mexico campus (with the scene evoking memories of another chemistry teacher), which ends with Gale urging for Gus to allow him to produce higher-grade meth in his lab. Gus declines, saying Gale is meant for “better things.”  

    We’ll find out in “Breaking Bad” that those “better things” aren’t really all that better.  

  • Ed Galbraith (Robert Forester) 
    A voice cameo for Ed, better known as the Vacuum Cleaner store operator that helped Saul disappear into his post-“Breaking Bad” life as Gene Takovic. 

    After Gene gets made, he phones in Ed to help him disappear again (at double the price), before deciding to take matters into his own hands.

  • Hank Schrader (Dean Norris) 
    As Jimmy/Saul gets further into bed with the criminal underworld, we figure it was only a matter of time he crossed paths with Albuquerque’s most famous DEA agent.

    Norris is certainly the most prominent “Breaking Bad” alum to re-appear on the AMC prequel, having starred in 60 of the show’s 62 episodes.

  • Steve Gomez (Steven Michael Quezada) 
    What, you thought Hank would show up without his trusted partner? 

  • Peter Schuler (Norbert Weisser) 
    Schuler only appeared in one scene in “Breaking Bad” but it was a pretty memorable one.

    The executive for Madrigal Electromotive GmbH, the parent company of Fring’s Los Pollos Hermanos (and financial benefactor for his meth operation), kills himself with a portable defibrillator after police arrive to question him about his longstanding ties to the Chicken Man.

    In “Better Call Saul” we find out he was never that calm and collected.

  • Honestly? We’re most worried about people who turn up on “Better Call Saul” but not “Breaking Bad.” Does that mean they went straight and avoided grim “Breaking Bad” fates? Or that they didn’t survive “Better Call Saul”? Kim Wexler, let us know you’re okay.  

A few “Better Call Saul” faces are familiar, but others are very deep pulls

“Better Call Saul” inhabits the same sad Albuquerque underground as “Breaking Bad,” so it’s natural that characters in the AMC shows would overlap. Ready to see how? (Spoiler warning: This gallery contains lots of details about both shows.)  

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